Was Jesus God in the Flesh?

5 Mar
Was Jesus God in the Flesh?
Did Jesus ever say “I am God” in those exact words? The answer lays in what He did say and how the Jews responded to His words. In John 10:30, Jesus said, “I and My Father are one.” “The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God” John 10:33. They clearly understood that Jesus claimed to be God.

Jesus knew he was God. In John 8:58 Jesus tells the Jews “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I AM.” After Jesus says he is “I AM” the Jews become angry and try to stone Him. Again the Jews understood Jesus proclaimed to be God.

Jesus God In The Flesh
1 John 5:20
And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

We are in His Son Jesus Christ the true God and eternal life.

We are in Him who is true.

We are in His Son Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is the true God and eternal Life.


JOHN 3:16
– For God so loved the world, that He gave His ONLY begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him (JESUS) shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Eternal Life comes by believing In (JESUS the true God).


After Jesus was cucified,Thomas His Apostle wanted proof He had risen~

John 20: 24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples were saying to him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them,
“Unless I see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”
26 After eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors having been shut, and stood in their midst and said, “Peace be with you.” 27 Then He said to Thomas, “Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing.” 28 Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.

Jesus never denied being God when Thomas called Him “my Lord and my God”

Lets examine John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God.
Then go to John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. So we have the Word which is God, then the Word becomes flesh. The flesh is Jesus, the flesh is God, Jesus Is God in the flesh.
The Word teaches us that Jesus was born of a virgin and conceived by the Holy Spirit.
Jesus was both God and man!

Conception and Birth of Jesus

Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit. 19 And Joseph her husband, being a righteous man and not wanting to disgrace her, planned to send her away secretly. 20 But when he had considered this, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for the Child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. 21 “She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.” 22 Now all this took place to fulfill what was spoken by the Lord through the prophet: 23 “BEHOLD, THE VIRGIN SHALL BE WITH CHILD AND SHALL BEAR A SON, AND THEY SHALL CALL HIS NAME IMMANUEL,” which translated means, “GOD WITH US.” 24 And Joseph awoke from his sleep and did as the angel of the Lord commanded him, and took Mary as his wife, 25 but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.
Philippians 2:5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
Concerning the Trinity!
Luke 1:37 “For nothing will be impossible with God. There is the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are each equally and eternally the ONE true God.
Here is an Analogy I like to use~
It is like H2O in three different forms: water is the liquid form of H2O, ice is the solid form of H2O, steam is the gas of H2O. They are All H2O.
I pray this helps for a greater understanding.
May Grace Be with Each of You!
Lord Jesus Saves
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24 Responses to “Was Jesus God in the Flesh?”

  1. pbus1 03/05/2012 at 11:17 PM #

    Hi Francine,

    Beautiful lesson on the Oneness of God! Yes, the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, in the personage of Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ is the Father in creation, the Son in redemption, and the Holy Ghost in the church today! The three manifestations of the one God! Praise His holy name!

    May the Lord bless you abundantly, today and every day!

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  2. Lord Jesus Saves 03/20/2012 at 1:47 AM #

    Colossians 2:8-10 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. For in HIM the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority.

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  3. balding2soon 06/23/2013 at 10:35 AM #

    I believe Jesus was God in the flesh. It states in the bible The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, The Father Created the Son to come to do his will as a human and teach us and then die for our sins, Jesus was resurrected, and after his resurrection only the few chosen ones could see our savoir. The Holy Spirit is God. Father,Son, Holy Spirit, that is how the Phrase came about.

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    • Lord Jesus Saves † 03/06/2014 at 10:04 PM #

      The Bible says that Jesus is God in flesh, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God . . . and the word became flesh and dwelt among us,” (John 1:1, 14); and, “For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,” (Col. 2:9). Jesus, therefore, has two natures. He is both God and man.

      Jesus is completely human, but He also has a divine nature.

      GOD

      He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2, 11; 14:33; 28:9)
      He is prayed to (Acts 7:59; 1 Cor. 1:2)
      He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8)
      He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1)
      He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15)
      He knew all things (John 21:17)
      He gives eternal life (John 10:28; 17:2)
      The fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9)

      Man

      He worshiped the Father (John 17)
      He prayed to the Father (John 17:1)
      He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5).
      He was called Son of Man (John 9:35-37)
      He was tempted (Matt. 4:1)
      He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52)
      He died (Rom. 5:8)
      He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39)

      As a man, Jesus needed to pray. When He was praying, he was not praying to Himself but to God the Father.

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  4. Katrina 04/02/2014 at 11:45 PM #

    Thanks for posting this! I was having thoughts about how to explain and use scripture to explain my belief in the Oneness of God to a friend of mine and this helped me so much!

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    • Lord Jesus Saves † 04/03/2014 at 1:52 AM #

      Your most welcome! God bless you!

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      • Sonny Barnes 05/05/2014 at 4:18 PM #

        The Godhead
        Christ is not God.

        As we reverently, with head bowed and shoes removed from off our feet, consider this great truth of Him who is “the beginning of the creation of God,” I would draw your pure mind to consider the processes of the creative word of God by which all things visible and invisible in all dimensions of time and space, and beyond time and space, are brought forth and exist. Before all things and behind all things and beyond all things standeth God, eternal, omniscient, and omnipotent. God is spirit! The reality of God exists in the eternal dimension of spirit, the dimension that is unique, special, and particular to His identity. All that God is exists in that eternal realm of spirit. And the testimony of scripture is that He is “before all things.”

        Taking the above notes from a quote of another, let us agree, that Christ is the beginning of creation. Jesus Christ is the firstborn of all who will come after. God is before “all things” including His created Christ.

        Many hold the view that God is also Jesus Christ in the flesh. This is the view of many but how do you explain looking at the natural to understand the spiritual, “does a natural son return to being his father after he is born or does he forever retain his independence apart and from his fleshly father? If this true and it is, it also has to be true in the relationship between the Father and Christ, His “Son” for we are instructed to look at the natural to understand the spiritual. The natural holds the keys in understanding spiritual things, no less, the relationship between God and His firstborn Son. We therefore look at the relationship between a natural father and son.

        “Here we have two entities, but we are not talking about two persons! We have God and we have the Word which is Christ Jesus. The Word was in the beginning. And all things were made by the Word! Yet it was God who did the creating. And the Word “was” God! This is the mystery.”

        The above phrase “And the Word was God!” just says that before Christ was created He “was” God. In keeping in mind all things “was” God before they were created puts Jesus Christ Himself as well as all the rest of His creation in this situation also.

        The correct correlation in that God created the “Word” and we as well as all other things were created through Christ, through the Son. The scriptures make sense and are not contradictory of confusing using this explanation. Christ cried out to His Father on the cross, not to Himself. There are many mysteries but God and Christ being the same entity is not one of them.

        “Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.”

        In the above verse Jesus is putting the relationship of “Father” to that of on par with His brethren as being on equal footing as having the same like relationship. He is putting His own relationship equal to that with His brethren. He did not say I ascend to myself. Some say this is a mystery, that God and the Son are the same entity. I and the scriptures disagree. Once understood in it’s reality the scriptures do not contradict or even seem to contradict. the scriptures, in their entirety speak clear to this relationship.

        “Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.”

        Is God greater than Himself? Is God greater than Christ Jesus? Jesus says, He goes to one greater than Himself. You cannot go to one greater than yourself if you are one and the same entity.

        Even in a mystery in which many scriptures are coded in, Jesus would not say that His Father was greater than Himself, if indeed they were one and the same. The scriptures that many use to force this assumption just do not fit. Again, looking at the natural to understand the spiritual, how does a son return to being his father once born? He forever retains his independence “to have life in himself” never to return to being his father although he came out and will retain his dna. So as in the spiritual the firstborn son and the sons who come after will have life given to them and remain as separate entities but they will always have the “oneness” of “likeness” of being in the Father. If one can explain the natural, one can clear up the spiritual. However, you cannot in this situation so it does not fit and cannot fit. To those who understand the rules of looking to the natural to understand the spiritual will readily see this truth.

        This does not address using all scriptures this subject but it does give food for thought. We respect God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit in the order of “our Father’s will and purpose.

        If you would like to see a further in-depth study, I would be glad to share it.

        In Christ

        Sonny

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        • Lord Jesus Saves † 05/05/2014 at 8:01 PM #

          Philippians 2:5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
          Even through Jesus was God he humbled himself.
          In John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
          God told Moses he was I AM..
          Exodus 3:13Then Moses said to God, “Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I will say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you.’ Now they may say to me, ‘What is His name?’ What shall I say to them?” 14God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” 15God, furthermore, said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations.

          “BEHOLD, THE VIRGIN SHALL BE WITH CHILD AND SHALL BEAR A SON, AND THEY SHALL CALL HIS NAME IMMANUEL,” which translated means, “GOD WITH US.” Matthew 1:23

          In John 10:30, Jesus said, “I and My Father are one.” How did His audience react to His words? “The Jews answered Him, saying, ‘For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God'” (John 10:33). They understood that Jesus claimed to be God.

          Jesus Christ is called the Lord God Almighty, and the Alpha and Omega,
          Rev. 1:8, the same as the Father is called the Lord God Almighty and the Alpha and Omega in Rev. 21:5-6

          2 Corinthians 6:18“And I will be a father to you,
          And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,”
          Says the Lord Almighty.

          What does Almighty mean, and does the definition apply to Christ?

          From the Greek Almighty means,

          3841. pantokrator, pan-tok-rat’-ore; from G3956 and G2904; the all-ruling, i.e. God (as absolute and universal sovereign):–Almighty, Omnipotent. Strong’s Dictionary

          We then can say yes, this definition describes Christ as all-ruling, Almighty and Omnipotent.

          Does the Bible tell us that Christ to be called the Mighty God? Yes.

          Isa 9:6 “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

          Isaiah tells us that Jesus is to be called the Mighty God. God in Hebrew means, 410. ‘el, ale; short. from H352; strength; as adj. mighty; espec. the Almighty deity, power, strong. Comp. names in “-el.” Strong’s Dictionary

          This definition describes Jesus. We find the definition Almighty, meaning Omnipotent, and God, as meaning Almighty deity. On this evidence alone Jesus can be called Almighty God.

          Does Jesus call himself the Lord God Almighty? Yes

          Rev. 1:7 BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

          Rev 1:8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

          Who is coming in the clouds? Verse 7, the one who was pierced. Jesus.

          What is his name? Verse 8, the Alpha and the Omega, the Lord God, the Almighty.

          Rev 21:5 And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.” 6 Then He said to me, “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost.

          John 4:13 Jesus answered and said to her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again; 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life.”

          Compare Rev 21:6 and John 4:14 both the Father and Son offer the water of eternal life. Both The Father and the Son are Alpha and the Omega showing the son is God the I AM

          Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done.

          Rev 22:13 “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”

          Who gives rewards at his soon coming? Verses 12, 13, the Alpha and the Omega.

          Mat 16:27 “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.

          Who is the Son of man that is coming in his Father’s glory? Verse 27, it is The Son of Man, (Jesus). Compare with the Alpha and the Omega, the Lord God Almighty that is coming and was pierced, in Rev. 1: 7,8.

          Rev 22:20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming quickly.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

          Who is coming soon? the Lord Jesus. Compare Rev. 22: 12,13 as the Alpha and Omega.

          After Jesus resurrection.. Thomas one of the disciples said in John 20:25 “Unless I see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.

          26 After eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors having been shut, and stood in their midst and said, “Peace be with you.” 27 Then He said to Thomas, “Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing.” 28 Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.”
          There unrebuked by the risen Lord the words of Thomas “MY LORD AND MY GOD”

          Jesus has to be God for His death to be sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world. 1 John 2:2 says, “And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.” Only Jesus, who is God, could pay such an infinite price!

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          • Sonny Barnes 05/07/2014 at 3:35 AM #

            I thank you for taking the time to respond to my input. Although I with deep respect disagree on the Godhead the more important thing in our life is how we correspond, taking into consideration we are all God’s children, and although on the same road to redemption, we can only proceed on our journey from where we are or where we were called from. Many see, not only the Godhead differently but many see understand other scriptures differently as well. I have absolutely no desire to defend or argue any point of scripture for we are instructed to conduct ourselves in a love and respect for another’s views.

            I appreciate your respect which is rarely given when one disagrees and this respect is the result of a greater understanding and a mutual love than the letter of the law.

            Not only was Jesus called “a” God but Jesus Himself explained to those who provoked Him in the New Testament by quoting a scripture in the Old Testament :

            John 10:33

            The Jews answered him, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken), say ye of him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do them, though ye believe not me, believe the works. end quote

            Right before these identifying scriptures of the terms used to address, God, Jesus states that He and God are one. This is not stating they are the same entity no more than when the scriptures teach we are to become one also with God and Christ. This oneness is in spirit, not in entity. Paul uses these same phrases in becoming “one” with God. When a child is born in the natural it possesses all the dna of the father. He grows up forever remaining a separate entity but will always possess the dna structure of his father. It is no less when we are born of the spirit. The rules of looking at the natural to understand the spirit must apply in all circumstances. The rule cannot apply in some cases and not it others. I have never seen an example of it being so. Jesus used many parables and allegories to explain spiritual things by using the created word in the natural. It is the way and the reason God created the natural, to help understand the spiritual. When God instructed Moses to build Him a tabernacle, God instructed Moses to be very careful in the building of it because it represented the spiritual. When Moses completed the tabernacle, we them learn from the natural what the tabernacle in the wilderness represented.

            Upon Jesus’ declaration that we are the true temple or tabernacle not made with hands but are thus made so from the inpouring of the spirit, we learn that the tabernacle in the Old Testament only represented Christ followers. He said, “Know ye not that you are the temple of God.” In studying the tabernacle in all it’s sum parts we understand each compartment represented a compartment within ourselves. We are Spirit, Soul, andBody just as the type of us had the Most Holy Place (Spirit), Holy Place (soul) and the outer court (body). Now we all read these comparisons and some understand the deeper meaning and some do not. By not understanding these allegories, it makes little difference in the love that God has for His children, it’s just that we are all called in different orders and callings. It takes many trades to build a house so we respect and love all who make it happen.

            In giving the meaning of the tabernacle above, this is but one example of looking at the natural to understand spiritual things. If Jesus referred to people as God’s and Himself as the Son of God, there is a deeper understanding here of how the term “God” is used and why it is used in the context it is used in. When Jesus explained “ye are god’s” was he saying we are all the Father? Or was he explaining we are the offspring of our Father and we have the same dna (spiritually speaking) as our Father. Christ said no less about Himself using the same terminology. “I and my Father are one, ” by using this exact same context in explaining your and my relationship not only to the Father, but in Christ as well.

            John 10: In that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself unto him.
            In the above saying it speaks of Jesus being in the Father and likewise we in Jesus , yet we are not Jesus just as Jesus is not God, but like Him on ever way. We will be one in likeness, not in entity.

            Like I mentioned in the beginning, a greater bond must exist in each of us so that we can speak and correspond with one another for knowledge will cease, but love will continue on. I approach all in this spirit and our differences in opinion can never take the place of the bonding spirit. This bond is what unites us, not from where we are on the path back to the Father. My words are food for thought, they are not a confrontation nor are they shared to condemn or accuse.

            I personally have never cared which interpretation of the Godhead was true, I just pray to be led in the direction of Himself and to be found in His spirit and if I am lacking in anything, I know that My God through my savior Jesus Christ will eventually bring me out of all darkness into His marvelous light. I with patience wait for this deliverance, I also with with this same patience respect and love all who are not in agreement for love heals all.

            I understand your explanation you have given above and I do not fault you in the least for what God has given to you. We all grow from where we begin, and God through His Son reveals all in His time. We have a much deeper bond than our perspectives on a subject and this mutual bond is that we seek, or should seek.

            With deep respect, in Christ

            Sonny

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            • James 12/14/2015 at 11:04 PM #

              Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son. He is the only one of his kind. God established an irrevocable law in the very beginning that every seed should produce after its own kind. When my three son’s were born or begotten, it was the seed of a human being. They had to be what I am because it’s a law of nature. So how could Jesus be anything else but God if he is the only begotten Son and if every seed begets its own kind. God can only beget another God. Jesus is the only begotten, then he (Jesus) created all creation.

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          • Sonny Barnes 05/07/2014 at 3:57 AM #

            And….God being “the” Father of all including His firstborn Son (of many sons) and incorporating the phrase Jesus used in saying “ye are gods” in defining all creation it is therefore plain to see God as Himself, God as Jesus, and we as God’s in the context “ye are God’s”. All this is telling me we will become like the Father, like the Son, in a oneness of spirit while retaining our God given individuality.

            God did say He gave to Christ life apart and separate from Himself and He said the same of us. Oneness is becoming as He is. Christ is our pattern in every way as explained in the scripture and if this is so we being born of God can only become in relationship to the Father as the pattern’s relationship is to the Father. The word “pattern” is not used lightly, it is used as in the natural when all things are made in a factory, The pattern is “first” made (born) and all that is made afterwards are made according to pattern, with no deviation. Our relationship to the Father is in direct correlation to the pattern Son, ourLord and Savior, our example. This is why He came to earth, to be a pattern in relationship as well as setting the example.

            Peace

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            • Lord Jesus Saves † 05/07/2014 at 2:27 PM #

              I deeply appreciate how you responded in love when disagreeing. Alot of the things you said I agree with. I am not in anyway as good as expressing myself with words as you. Virgin Mother was conceived by the Holy Spirit which makes Jesus, God’s one and only begotten son. Only begotten in the greek is (monogenē) meaning one and only. The emphasis is more on μονο (mono = one) than on γενοῦς (genous = begotten) Jesus Christ is the only one and therefore unique. John 1:18 “No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.” The word monogenē is applied to Jesus Christ as the unique Son of God.

              What Makes Jesus Unique???
              Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit. 19 And Joseph her husband, being a righteous man and not wanting to disgrace her, planned to send her away secretly. 20 But when he had considered this, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for the Child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. 21 “She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.”
              Joseph planned to send her away knowing he was not the one that she conceived with, but the angel of the Lord opened his eyes to the truth. Can you imagine Mary being a Virgin and being miraculously conceived without any human intervention?
              The Holy Spirit is God, and Mary is (flesh) created by God. So the Spirit of Jesus is God but His flesh was created by God, so Jesus was both fully God and fully man. Being God in the flesh, Jesus humbled himself. God uses parallels between the physical and the Spiritual. Example God instructed Noah in preparing the Ark. The Ark only had one door and those who were saved from the great flood were those who entered the ark. Jesus is our spiritual ark, he is the one door. God prepared this spiritual ark by planting His seed in Mary giving the ultimate sacrifice through HIS crucifixion and resurrection.
              John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
              God did to His own son (JESUS) what HE had asked of Abraham. Jesus died a physical death but death had no hold on Him. Look at the physical parallel using Abraham.
              Galatians 3:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac. He received the promises and he was offering his begotten son, 18 the one it had been said about, Your seed will be traced through Isaac. 19 He considered God to be able even to raise someone from
              the dead, and as an illustration, he received him back.

              I do love how God used these parallels to help us see HIS WAY more clearly!

              Genesis 22: 9 Then they came to the place of which God had told him; and Abraham built the altar there and arranged the wood, and bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood. 10 Abraham stretched out his hand and took the knife to slay his son. 11 But the angel of the LORD called to him from heaven and said, “Abraham, Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.” 12 He said, “Do not stretch out your hand against the lad, and do nothing to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.” 13 Then Abraham raised his eyes and looked, and behold, behind him a ram caught in the thicket by his horns; and Abraham went and took the ram and offered him up for a burnt offering in the place of his son. 14 Abraham called the name of that place The LORD Will Provide, as it is said to this day, “In the mount of the LORD it will be provided.”15 Then the angel of the LORD called to Abraham a second time from heaven, 16 and said, “By Myself I have sworn, declares the LORD, because you have done this thing and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 indeed I will greatly bless you, and I will greatly multiply your seed as the stars of the heavens and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your seed shall possess the gate of their enemies. 18 “In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.”
              The Lord is so Amazing!!!

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              • Sonny Barnes 05/08/2014 at 11:07 PM #

                Francine,

                I read a little deeper into your blog and read where you shared things of and in your past. It is amazing what we can go through and come out shining as you have. We all have our past and have many hurtful events that lay along our past path to the present. I see things a lot different as God has shown me His ways and His plan. He has also shown me why we suffer the things we do and their purpose in our life.

                God does not allow anything in our life to happen to us unless it ultimately is in our best interest in the end. Those who God allows to to be subjected to this life’s problems and suffer more abuse than others are given an understanding many never achieve. Because of past sufferings, we can now understand others who suffer also, we now can show a compassion from having been there. Our light burns brighter in the present because of our past. I do not say these things only to comfort you, which I do, but to assure you as I think you already know, that God puts us through things so that we may be of greater help to Him.

                Job’s life is an example to us all, showing suffering and abuse by others have a great lesson and benefit if we keep our devotion to God through it all. I am warmed by your kindness and respect. Kindness and compassion for others of different views is key to a healthy relationship with our Father. He expects us to respect one more for who His they are as His “other” child than how we understand the scripture. Christ explains this in easy to understand terms again and again in the New Testament.

                There is the law and there is the spirit. The law addresses sin and no man comes to God by the law for it only reveals the sin within. God is spirit and God expects us to worship Him in spirit of which there is no law. We therefore come to Him by obedience to His ways. His ways are the beatitudes, again which have no law and do not come under the law.

                May God bless and open our eyes to see Him as he Is.

                Sonny

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  5. Sonny Barnes 05/09/2014 at 9:38 AM #

    I had been thinking maybe I should put some of my thoughts and writings out there as for a few years I have been pretty much in solitude as far as meeting with others. Rare and occasional. At one time I was somewhere several days in a week and traveled to other states. It was an experience and then things began to consolidate into what I felt was a sectarian attitude in the “group” without the “outward” label. Labels start in our soul and move to others with a like understanding. When the understanding starts to become “we have it” or we are special we need to stop and think what a label or a denomination is. When our soul is dominated by the “other man in her life” the “carnal mind” and gives her (our soul) time to it, she (our soul) becomes the prostitute as depicted in the Old Testament through to the Book of Revelations. (The woman or false church of harlotry). She then moves into agreement with others of like minds and thus religion is formed in an outward manifestation. As much as I enjoy studying, having knowledge revealed and understanding mysteries, it pails in comparison to when God, through the processing’s of Christ, starts revealing a new day (light) in our very being. It is spirit talking to spirit for it is the Holy Spirit that starts to move us and not the letter of the law. We start out having the knowledge, understanding and wisdom of the letter, however when God starts drawing us to a higher realm, a higher calling, the knowledge loses it’s luster for it is something of an external understanding, something we understand by the seeing of the natural eye. When we start to be drawn into a more spiritual way, we move in a realm of being, becoming that we saw from afar by knowledge in the past.

    At first I was reluctant to share this moving into a higher realm of understanding and substance because my past experiences with people teaching, speaking and preaching the gospel from a knowledgeable point of view did not set right in my being because I saw the saying, but not the doing. I did not want to be looked at like this for myself and I did not care about the recognition that many sought for what they spoke about. To me it is not what you speak, however true, I felt the words must be spoken from more of a substance and not by rote. Thus I looked into my soul and saw a mix of part knowledge and a “partial” maturity of my spirit. Many, and much, praying later although not being as complete as I would have liked, I felt confident enough to speak maybe not from as much substance as I would have liked, I felt comfortable enough to speak as Paul, “not as though I have obtained the fullness” but I see it before me and the end of the path is in view and complete “enough” in my being to speak from experience. I do not have any desire to join in the soulish realm of religious desire of being applauded for my words or feeling that I need any support from the world so to speak. It has been a journey and I know I am nearer to the end of the road than when I started. I do not and cannot judge how much road is left in front of me but looking behind it has been a road I would not want to repeat nor want for others, however this road has brought to me my present illumination of spirit, a compassion and love for others I once only longed for.

    Knowing, and God revealing His plan to me in the way that He has brings a completeness to my soul and an outlook toward all of humanity that completes me. It is in such a way, that I do see all differently than ever before, I see a wonderful plan in that salvation is not the issue here on earth, it is where we fit into that salvation, in what order and into what calling God is preparing for each and everyone of us. The peace of knowing that all I see and meet is one to be loved, if not for their present frame of mind and actions, we have a compassion, knowing that when their processing is complete, we will all stand in our respective callings and orders, complete in the substance and spirit of our true Father.

    God does truly have a wonderful plan, I pray that all, as soon as possible come to this same wonderful understanding. If God does not open your eyes in our present day, rest assured all will eventually come to His presence, His likeness, this is His promise.

    In Christ

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    • Lord Jesus Saves † 05/10/2014 at 12:17 AM #

      In truth it is not about man made denominational-ism, it is about having a personal relationship with the Lord and building on HIS foundation. As Jesus said in Matthew 7:13 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14“For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
      That small gate Jesus spoke of is having faith in Him while loving Jesus Our LORD our God with all our heart, all our soul, and all our mind.’ and loving our neighbors as ourselves. Resulting in Good Fruit.
      I have found out of the greatest pain has come the greatest blessings. It was after I left the church that I grew even closer to the Lord and experienced the Holy Spirit like never before. I left a Church that taught it was the one true church. The teachings were very legalistic filled with modern day pharisees and at the time I was hurt. To this day I still love and care and pray for them. As His “called out ” we are to walk in the spirit and the fruit of the Spirit is to shine forth while speaking truth in love. Blessing to You!

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      • Sonny Barnes 05/10/2014 at 7:00 PM #

        I see in you a growth and a love beyond religious rote. And blessings to you, your are loved.

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      • Sonny Barnes 05/11/2014 at 7:24 AM #

        I couldn’t agree with you more. The only “true church” to be found is in your very being.

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        • Lord Jesus Saves † 05/11/2014 at 4:05 PM #

          The true Church has no man-made walls. The body of Christ is the temple made with no hands. Jesus is that temple. Those who enter into Christ are the living stones, the called out. 1 Peter 2:4 And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. In Israel there are plans to build a physical third temple, but the truth is Jesus is that 3rd temple. The eternal temple that will never be destroyed. Mark 14:58 “We heard Him say, ‘I will destroy this temple made with hands, and in three days I will build another made without hands.’” When the made-made Church told me I could not be a member unless I repented, meaning divorce my husband. I saw no love or mercy. The Lord told me I did not have to be a member of the man-made church called the Church of Christ. I was already a member of the true Church of Christ. I left the Church but I did not leave Jesus, My precious Lord and Savior. Without HIM I am nothing.

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          • Sonny Barnes 05/12/2014 at 10:02 AM #

            We agree. Wonderful truth. Everything in the old law of ritual and type, the buildings, the sacrifices and ceremonies all moved from the outward world in type to the inward world in spirituality “in” Christ, in us. When Christ Jesus came to earth and was crucified a great change took place. The spirit now was poured within us now making us the dwelling place of His spirit. We are the spiritual church where Christ dwells for “Know you not that you are the temple of God?”

            All the symbols and types of darkness is swallowed up in the light of Christ……….when we accept Him into our temple, it is full of light, the light of Christ. Sure makes it easier to love all.

            Wonderful light isn’t it?

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